WCC NCAA tournament…

Updated on March 15, 2017 in NCAA Tourney
30 on March 12, 2017

St. Mary’s out first weekend, maybe first round.
Gonzaga out sweet 16.

Arizona best in the west this year.

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20 on March 13, 2017

Getting a 7 seed doesn’t do SMC any favors… 7-10 are the seeds you don’t want as if you advance your reward is a 1 or 2 seed.  Would much rather be 11 or 12 seed than a 7,8,9,or 10 seed. That said, VCU is very good.  I look forward to that game.  But yeah, likely they fall to AZ if they get by VCU (to nobody’s surprise).  

I know you love to knock the 32-1 Zags, but they look to have a decent path.  It’s never easy in the tourney, but I fully expect them to have a showdown with AZ in the elite 8.   Since you think Zags are out at 16 maybe we can make a friendly wager?… if Zags do not make it to elite 8 I will limit my posts for the entire 2017-18 season to 2 posts per week and max 15 words per post.  If they do make it to 8 then those post parameters apply to you (either way the BroncoHoops community comes out a winner).  Do we have a deal?

on March 13, 2017

Nope. Gonzaga is the 1 seed. If you have any confidence in them at all you should be picking them to go to the final four. That’s minimum expectation for the 1 seed. And since Kenpom and Massey both have Gonzaga #1, you really should be picking them to win the title if you think they’re they are really not overrated.

You’re asking for a teaser without paying anything extra or taking a lower payout. That would be just stupid for me.

Come back with a real offer.

on March 13, 2017

That’s the kind of reply I was expecting from you.  You’re the one who posted that Gonzaga would be out at 16…. guess you don’t really mean what you say.

on March 14, 2017

I can mean what I say without being willing to agree to a completely stupid arrangement. 

If I say a 4 or 5 seed beats a 1 and I’m right, I should get a premium for that. You certainly should not get even odds and be rewarded if Gonzaga fails to perform to seed (let alone their #1 consensus computer rank between kenpom, Sagarin and Massey that makes their true expected wins even higher than performing to seed). 

538 gives Gonzaga a 14% chance to win the tournament, 2nd most to Villanova. 

So, given that, if you could bet on such a thing, and maybe you can, do you think Vegas would give you even money on saying Gonzaga would win as few as 3 games? 

on March 14, 2017

So basically you won’t stand behind what you said even concerning a gentleman’s bet about a silly basketball message board?  I guess you really don’t mean what you say.

on March 14, 2017

You said that last time and it was just as stupid then.

You’re asking me to accept worse terms than consensus, not to mention common sense, dictates. I’m not that stupid. Maybe you are, and you would accept that. 

You’re asking for to buy points without paying for them, in essence. 

Very Trumpian; say something ridiculous, and then act like it’s not and blame your target for not accepting your ridiculous premise.

on March 14, 2017

Ok, so you don’t really mean you think Zags are out at 16… anyway, how about the other option you mentioned “Arizona best in the West this year”.  I’m willing to go with the same wager (max 2 posts per week for 2017-18 season, max 15 words per post) I’ll say AZ doesn’t reach the final 4.  Obviously you believe they are at least going that far.

on March 14, 2017

3rd time, still no smarter. 

You don’t go to a betting window in Vegas and place a bet and them be like “well since you obviously think it and other people don’t, we’re going to charge you more!”

You’re again asking for even odds on something that’s not an even odds play.

But then this is the person that falsely accused me of having multiple accounts using God knows what for evidence. Clearly not the strongest swimmer.

on March 14, 2017

538 (basically a compilation of major computer rankings and other data) has Gonzaga 2 1/2 times as likely as Arizona to make the Final Four. 

And then you’re not even talking about Gonzaga vs. Arizona. You’re talking about Arizona vs. the rest of the bracket. 538 has Arizona at a 16% chance to win the bracket. 

You give me the 6.5:1 odds I should be getting and then we can talk.

on March 14, 2017

No, I’m just going directly on the words you wrote… obviously even you don’t believe the words you type (as you have continued to demonstrate).  My only miscalculation was that 2 gentlemen are needed for a gentlemen’s bet.

on March 14, 2017

I hope you didn’t actually attend Santa Clara. I thought you had to be smart to go there and that they would teach something other than reductive nonsense.

No team in the field is more than 50% likely to make the Final Four. So for your bet, you would not get even odds for any team in the field. And you’re asking for them for the 2 seed least fancied by objective number crunching. You are truly an idiot, that or you’re just being a piece of trash troll.

on March 14, 2017

This is amusing. BB trying to hold noob to his own words/pronouncements (that’re still available to read unless edited), and noob now claiming that it wouldn’t be fair to do that because the professional oddsmakers say differently. And then accusing BB of being “Trumpian.” (P.S.- Projection and deflection and trying to welch on prior statements when called on them is the ultimate in Trumpism.)

If it’s just a gentleman’s bet, even odds make perfect sense. It’s not like there’s anything being quantified. Or maybe the post/word count limtation for next season should vary depending on who wins? 😀

on March 14, 2017

Even odds don’t make sense. I already explained why multiple times. 

If you think something is worth 30 bucks but the asking price and market price is 15, do you pay 30 just because that’s what you value it at? If so, you’re an example of the reason why many people overseas try to rip off westerners. 

I’m not welching on anything. I haven’t made any agreement. I’ve simply said what I think. What I think doesn’t alone determine what the betting public’s opinion is, and therefore what the odds are.

I’m not saying a side wager has to be exactly in line, but good lord come on, this isn’t even close. If he has to rig the game to this extent, then maybe it is he that is not so confident. I could be just as reductive as he has been.

on March 14, 2017

Life has got to be rough when you’re a narcissistic dogmatist who feels compelled to always get the last word (yet ultimately doesn’t actually mean what he says…”Gonzaga out sweet 16. Arizona best in the west this year.”)… I’m picturing noob at home with a bunch of cats and empty pizza boxes on the floor.

on March 14, 2017

So something’s wrong with cats and pizza now? Are you like, not human or something?

4th time, still not an intelligent retort. I can believe something and yet not want to be ripped off for believing it. 

Believer, it’s not up to me to make the terms. I don’t care whether there’s a bet or not. It’s not like there’s any way to enforce it if I win, as we’ve already seen that the mods here won’t ban betterer even for heinously lying about me and making false accusations. So why do I care? What’s my insurance? Do I get to kneecap him if he welches?

on March 14, 2017

Got to love how you try to switch to soft victim mode a couple of sentences from spouting useless profanity and going ballistic… I think Trump took his playbook from you.  

Even funnier “I can believe something and yet not want to be ripped off for believing it.”   Ripped off??? Concerning a gentlemen’s bet that has to do with posting frequency and word limits on a basketball bulletin board?    You take the cake.  Hope you and your cats like the icing.  Then again I can see your unwillingness to take the bet as without this silly little board you’d have to talk feline all day to get any sort of interaction.

on March 15, 2017

Yet another display of your maturity.  Nobody wants you here (or likely anywhere else for that matter)

on March 15, 2017

So have you learned what the fuck a proper bet is yet? Or are you too busy casting blame on me for your complete ignorance and failure to acknowledge and remedy that ignorance? 

I would put the screws to you and make a proposal of my own, but between you and the moderators that have already shown how lax they are with you, I have no confidence that you would actually honor it. You might start a 2nd username and post all you want. You know, like you falsely accused me of doing. 

on March 15, 2017

There you go all victim again.  (I haven’t called you asshole or anything like that… I think much less of you than that.  You’re the one with all the 12 year old mentality name calling)  You’re a narcissistic dogmatist who feels compelled to always get the last word so I know it will eat at you if you don’t respond to this.  Actually, I don’t think you could abstain from doing so.

on March 15, 2017

Whoa, look out for betterer, master of psychology! 

I am so incredibly far from either a narcissist or a dogmatist (most of my friends tell me just the opposite, actually). You don’t even know. I just don’t like when people try to offer me a shit deal, especially when they’re people that have tried ot do me dirty in the past. And I’m smart enough to know when someone is doing that, even when they themselves don’t.

And that’s the problem here. You’re too ignorant to even realize what you’ve done, and at the same time too arrogant to admit your ignorance and change your position.

That’s pretty much all there is to say about this situation. You can either offer a fair bet that can at least be discussed, or you can fuck off. I don’t care which you choose because like I said, I don’t think you’ll be held to it if you did lose. 

on March 15, 2017

Yet another of your posting personalities come out.  I’m thinking of naming each of them… maybe the community can help with that.

I know you have that compulsive nature that you just have to get the last word in, and it will be hard/impossible for you to resist.  I’d bet that you won’t be able to quell your compulsion with regard to this post, but then again I’d have to offer you points or special odds.  Hopefully you and those voices in your head find some peace… preferably somewhere else.

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1 on March 13, 2017

I thought that gonzaga would have bad odds to make the final four if they were matched against an athletic team, whether that team is from a power conference or Cinderella.

However, now I really do think they can make a legit run to the final four. I think they can handle vandy/NW, ND, WV. I even think they stand a better chance of beating Arizona again then they would in a potential matchup with Florida st.

on March 13, 2017

Wait, you don’t think WVU is a very athletic team? Wow. Ooooook then.

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1 on March 13, 2017

VCU is a smallish team. The tallest member is an Egyptian guy at 6’9″ who doesn’t appear to have much in the way of stats. After that, a couple of 6’7″ guys. Opening line in Vegas was SMC -3.5, it looks like the line has already moved to -4.5. Sagarin predictor suggests St. Mary’s by 5 on a neutral court. I think the Gaels squeak by in the opener, but then get handled by Arizona.

I think Gonzaga is an Elite 8 team this year, with a good chance at the Final Four. I sincerely doubt they can win the championship, unless a lot of top seeds fall by the wayside.

on March 13, 2017

They’re small but they play on their quickness and SMC doesn’t have a ton of that. Didn’t SCU give them trouble with the press late (obviously SCU can’t press the whole game)?

Both coaches are really good, so I don’t think thre’s a lot of advantage to be had there. 

Kenpom actually has SMC rated higher than Arizona, but I think that’s nonsense. 

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4 on March 15, 2017

“So fuck off and die in a fire you motherfucking piece of shit.” Really?

Bronconoob, you are so far out of line it is unbelievable. Classless comments and personal attacks have no place on this board. If that is the way you are going to conduct yourself, absolutely nobody wants you to be a part of this board. 

I was easily one of the most active posters on the old board, but the way you take over threads by attacking players and posters alike makes me not want to post, or even visit this website. The old board ran for what, a decade? We never had comments as base and rude as yours in that timespan.

This has long been a place for people to come and talk about a mid-major basketball program that we all love in respectful and constructive fashion. If you’re not going to do that, then you need seriously ask yourself whether your own enjoyment is worth ruining the board for everyone else. 

on March 15, 2017

^^^ Do these posts mean you’re leaving voluntarily, n00b?

Don’t think we’ve ever had anybody banned from the board, but the moderators have sure given you a long leash. Longer than I would have.

on March 15, 2017

Oh it’s me you would ban, and not the person that lied about having evidence that I had multiple accounts and made false accusations? Not that person?

Figures. This place is so insular. No room for any new people or new ideas. Weird considering the part of the country the school is in. I have always felt like an interloper in some kind of secret treehouse club here. Truly one of the weirdest internet website experiences of my life.

From bronconoob

No one knows what it’s like
To be the bad man
To be the sad man
Behind blue eyes

No one knows what it’s like
To be hated
To be fated
To telling only lies

But my dreams
They aren’t as empty
As my conscience seems to be

I have hours, only lonely
My love is vengeance
That’s never free

No one knows what it’s like
To feel these feelings
Like I do
And I blame you

on March 15, 2017

I get the site deleting all his ridiculous profane rants/threats etc, but in a way wonder if deleting those posts might embolden him some?  Hoping his exit is permanent.

on March 15, 2017

just read admin’s post that he has been banned… which makes the question I posted a few minutes ago null.

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