Silverio Decommits

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53 on April 4, 2018

Bad news….Apparently Silverio has chosen to decommit and SCU granted a release from his Letter of Intent.
Wertz is probably the most likely 2018 recruit to make a significant and immediate impact but Silverio was my sleeper pick to turn out as a strong recruit.
Like his size/build/athleticism…seemed like a strong, physical guard prepared to handle the jump to D1 hoops.
So we have at least 1 available scholarship. Will be interesting to see how it is filled.

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1 on April 4, 2018

In his tweet he says he is decommitting because of “some changes there” (presumably at SCU). Anyone know what that means?

on April 4, 2018

Wondered the same.
Don’t know for a fact but I assume as a NY guy Hodge was instrumental in Silverio’s recruitment…hopefully Hodge isn’t going anywhere.
Just speculating…probably reading too much in to the comment.

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0 on April 4, 2018

I was wondering about that too. Hopefully it is something minor. Too bad we lost him—he looked like he had a lot
of potential.

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5 on April 4, 2018

You’re not reading too much into it….
More to come…. another 1 asked/granted release as well

on April 4, 2018

Crap…certainly not what we need.
Not good to lose 2 commits plus Hodge (a year after losing Perry).
Hoping the additional de-commit isn’t Justice. If I were to rank the 2018 recruits i’d put Justice behind Wertz and Sikverio, ahead of Richards and Ducasse.

on April 4, 2018

Peery…darn autocorrect.

on April 4, 2018

another commit… or current player Watcher?

on April 4, 2018

Probably have said too much already…..  There is a hint in the statement….

on April 5, 2018

betterer: Turner might be the “other one”. 

If this kid didn’t want to work then he’s not really a loss. He was going to be behind 2 seniors, Eaddy and Wertz as it was. Maybe a grad transfer is in the works that would push Wertz to the 2? 

Nothing anywhere I can find about Hodge leaving. It would be bizarre if he told Silverio 2+ days before he told Sendek. I can’t see that happening.

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Matt Turner was the SCU freshman I saw most promise in this year… just saying.

on April 4, 2018

Did you happen to see the Barkley piece when talked about the FBI and AAU ruining players?

A lot of the kids coming up now have been handed things to them instead of having to work for it.  When you’re promised certain things and then those things don’t happen, either by not panning out or maybe the turn of the corner is more challenging than expected…..  Could be the expectations of the coach not being met or maybe your talent on this level is just not that good….

 

My point is, I believe Barkley was correct when he talked about kids not wanting to be challenged for playing time.  They feel like it’s a given for whatever reason.  Look at the vast amount of transfers year after year.  A lot of them are not because they want to go and play for a better program because that rarely happens.  A lot of times it’s because the player doesn’t feel like they were 1. given a fair chance. 2. Not given the playing time they think they deserve or was told they would get. 3. The feel like the coach doesn’t like me or 4. they feel they are better than what they really are.

 

When you look at the past couple of seasons at SCU and you are a decent player with other options, you have to ask if this is the best place for you to go and play….  If you’re a player on the roster looking to leave, you have to ask yourself this, 1. Who else wants me?  and 2. Am I really as good as I think I am?  Can I go to another program and be the impact player that I believe I am…..

 

Now I’m a firm believer in believing in yourself, because if you don’t no one else will….  If you have any kind of competitive spirit, you believe that you’re good enough to compete with anyone at anytime….  But you also have to look at how you performed when you were on the court as well.  Did you play well enough to warrant the playing time you believe you deserve.

 

Most times those answers come from behind rose colored glasses……

on April 5, 2018

That’s odd considering a FR started and played significant minutes. Turner barely played and probably wasn’t going to be playing much next year. If he had been patient he might have been a good player as an upperclassman, but you don’t see that much anymore.

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1 on April 5, 2018

Disappointing, I liked his tape.  Hopefully there are some options out there late in the cycle.

on April 6, 2018

SCU has been in contact with a 7-footer that played in a western conference last year. Grad transfer.

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Just curious what’s his name?

on April 7, 2018

Now where would be the fun in that?

Y’all spread your BS rumors, I’ll give my information my way.

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“Idaho State 7-foot grad transfer Novak Topalovic told ESPN he has heard from Utah, Oregon State, Colorado, USC, Nevada, Wake Forest, Santa Clara, Pepperdine, LMU, Cal State Fullerton and UC Santa Barbara.”

per Jeff Goodman’s twitter.

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Thanks bud!

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9 on April 7, 2018

That would be a good come up if he signs with Scu.

on April 7, 2018

Probably a longshot, but no reason not to try.

on April 7, 2018

I follow University of Colorado sports, my graduate alma mater. That’s where I saw this tweet. Have to say there are a lot of schools quite a bit higher in the college basketball pecking order than us on that list, but sometimes high major interest turns out to be only interest. 

Well, it appears it’ll be a more interesting hot stove season for SCU than I had originally thought. Will be interesting to see how the roster looks by next fall. Far more dynamic than the Keating years… 

on April 7, 2018

Guess I’ve taken a while to get over last season. Sans another quality  Henry Caruso transfer pick-up, I don’t see a lot of upside. We’re very hopeful that Eaddy and a freshman (Wertz) will rise up the team, Phoenix like,  from the ashes of last year. Vrankic needs an upgrade physically, and maybe Walters will be a good wing defender. Kind of a black hole up front. But the next season is way-off, and we’re undefeated. I’m hopeful, but still skeptical.

Does anyone know if a short bench has been Sendek’s style in the past? Also Nashty, my middle daughter is presenting/defending her dissertation this fall at CU. Very pretty campus…really like the symmetry in the architecture in the flagstone(???) type stones used in the building construction. Plus someone said you could still get a decent beer in Boulder. 

 

 

on April 7, 2018

Eaddy isn’t some unknown freshman. We can see what he’s done.

And as for “upgrade physically”, that’s called a weight room, and it tends to do freshmen becoming sophomores some good.

There’s basically no way next year’s team isn’t better. Pretty much everyone of value is coming back except Caruso and he wasn’t really that great. Basically a 5 man away from being truly competitive, but even without that will surely be improved.

on April 7, 2018

2ndyr-
Obviously the roster is currently in flux and will likely (hopefully) look different by the start of the season.
But assuming we land someone serviceable to start at the 5 or at least play significant minutes of the bench, what do you define as ‘improved’ next season….14 to 15 wins? 16 to 18 wins?

on April 7, 2018

There’s really only one definition of improved.

Maybe I misinterpreted what “upside” means, but I took it to be basicallly that. 

on April 8, 2018

I’ll rephrase my question…what degree of improvement are you expecting?
Not asking for specific record just general range of improvement….+1-4 wins, +5-8wins, +9 or (so 20+wins)???

on April 8, 2018

It’s pretty silly to answer that before we even know who is going to be on the team.

on April 8, 2018

“There’s basically no way next year’s team isn’t better. Pretty much everyone of value is coming back except Caruso and he wasn’t really that great,” wrote secondyear.

Caruso was the second leading scorer, leading rebounder, lead the team in steals and averaged the most minutes per game. If we digest and accept he wasn’t really that great, then that doesn’t say much for anybody on the roster not named KJ Feagin.

If by “everyone of value returns” is Feagin, Hauser, Vrankic and Walters, then you may be right. In terms of minutes played last year, the player who played the most (Caruso), the 5th (Ndumanya) and 6th (Healy) most, then 8th (Turner) and 9th (Pugh) most minutes won’t be returning. Two starters are not returning, and three of the top four player off the bench are not returning.

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Yes, I acknowledged the roster is in flux and prefaced my question w/ an assumption we land a serviceable post.
It’s not like you couldn’t change your prediction between now and the start of the season based on who we do or don’t land this Spring/Summer or for any other reason you chose.

on April 8, 2018

Or I could just not make a pointless statement.

We don’t know what the schedule is going to be, what the roster is going to be, what other teams’ rosters are going to be…

It’s really never a useful question bc all it does is make unnatural expectations when really the team’s objective is to get better every day (especially with a crowd like here that don’t know what they’re talking about or what a realistic expectation is, like this past season), but it’s especially pointless when pretty much nothing is set. 

8-10 in the league really wasn’t that bad for this season though. 1st and 2nd are obviously ridiculous to expect. BYU far as I know doesn’t lose anyone. So you can probably safely start there, but after that you’re pissing in the wind.

on April 8, 2018

I’ve read the Nick Emery is back practicing with BYU, in addition to them not graduating any scholarship players. Keeping track of their roster in the past has been tricky, given that they have some many HS players go on missions, etc. Anyway, it looks like they’ll be quite good next year. Emery is a player for sure. 

on April 8, 2018

Exactly. I think it’s best to just watch and see what happens, and then assess after the fact, rather than coming up with artificial and poorly informed expectations from people that mostly don’t know what they’re talking about anyway.

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Something is wrong with the program. Why are these players decomitting and transferring (Julian Roche and Matt Turner)? Is it academics? Broken promises? Disenchanted with getting crushed by GU, BYU and SMC?

92Bronc: this team does not improve from 2017-2018 season. Other league teams may falter, so the record stays the same, but Caruso is gone, young recruits are transferring, top recruit de commits. Some one year grad student with a of eligibility is not going to change the trajectory of this program. Maybe a good season for a walk on to get some playing time. Who is the best intramural player at the school? Maybe a transfer from SJSU?

on April 8, 2018

There are a couple of guys who seem to have some inside knowledge, maybe they can help out (re: new practice facility????) If this were a private business or a pay for performance compensation program, Mr. Herb would be under a lot of pressure. Perhaps he is anyway. It does seem SCU is geared to compete only against the glob of the other seven. I’m hopeful a x-fer from the OVC (who played against Murray State and Belmont) can mirror Elijah Bryant’s transfer from Elon to BYU, and be a producer, but his accolades from a lower tier SE Missouri State program mentioned that he was “an efficient combo guard,” of which we already have Mr Hauser. (Maybe he just wanted to get the hell out of Cape Girardeau…not a bad wish) The Carolina freshman, Wertz, offers promise, as did the others you have mentioned here and elsewhere, but have now transferred. I guess Vrankic is going to crush it in the weight room, and give us a Trasolini presence (or even Nate Kratch would be good). Feagin has to stay healthy and we get some transfer(s).

I’m hopeful, but with lowered expectations compared from the beginning of last year, when many thought this would be the great leap forward. The OOC losses were so brutal last year, that even a 3-5 game win increase ( as prodded by 92Bronc) may not be much of an improvement, without a corresponding 4th or 5th place in the WCC. Long way ’til November…Go Broncos!

Cadmus…pretty cool screen name, Perseus and Bellerophon give a nod. 

 

 

on April 8, 2018

Sierra- Cadmus may not necessarily be referring to Greek mythology but perhaps some type of knowledge involving computer systems

on April 8, 2018

I’m already flogging myself for the peremptory leap to the classics. I was just a finance/accounting guy anyway.

 

on April 8, 2018

It’s cute how people here think Hauser is good.

on April 8, 2018

Yes, Cadmus, King of Thebes.

on April 8, 2018

SierraBronco takes the prize.

on April 9, 2018

Typical response from your screen names. If your daily obsession with hating on Hauser brings you happiness, and makes you feel better about Your son by all means hate in him all you want. Matt has done nothing to deserve this so what ever brings you joy, go for it.

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Is Julius hodge really out at Scu? If so that sucks. Just saying

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It looks like he’s staying! Cross my fingers. Hopefully he can recruit a couple junior college studs that can make an immediate impact on the court.

on April 8, 2018

Only so many JUCOs that are recruitable by SCU. A lot of kids go JUCO bc they failed to meet minimum qualifying standards out of high school. 

Not all, but many. Very many.

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6 on April 9, 2018

I think Scu needs to give these juco’s a shot and provide them with all the tutoring they need if they want to go to a prestigious school like Santa Clara. I don’t see anything wrong with that. At least Scu doesn’t cheat or violate NCAA rules.

on April 9, 2018

I guess I am not 100% clear on just what the admissions standards are, except that they aren’t above the NCAA minimums. Maybe someone here has a better idea. 

I would think grad transfers would be a better avenue for SCU than JUCOs. 

on April 9, 2018

The problem for SCU re: grad transfers is the relatively limited amount of graduate degree offerings compared to a large research university. The transfer student has to enroll in a graduate degree program that the institution they are leaving doesn’t offer. So unless they want to do some kind of theological degree, we don’t have many offerings that are unique/not offered where they are coming from.

Caruso, interesting, pursued an MBA or MS in Finance (can’t remember)- very common graduate degrees which Princeton does not offer, because it does not have a graduate business school (or law or medical school, very unique given their status as a premier American university- even Dartmouth, a self-described “college” has both MD and MBA programs). I can’t recall what a  more recent grad transfer, Jerry Brown from Fresno State, studied at SCU. 

I don’t know much about the admissions standards at SCU for athletes other than I’ve heard that they previously were above NCAA minimums, but one of the alleged new tools at the program’s disposal was allegedly a lower academic standard for athletes. That’s all hearsay, but I had heard it around. I know SCU has recently made it easier for Californian junior college students to transfer in…  the trouble comes from SCU’s, like some other Californian/Western Universities, use of a quarter rather than a semester system and corresponding discrepancies with the credits between the two systems makes transferring a more challenging process. For example, the most recent JuCo guy I can remember was Akil Douglas, who came from San Jose CC… Can’t recall an out-of-state JuCo player at SCU 

Takeaway being SCU has used JuCo’s and Grad transfers in the past but sparingly. 

Seconyear- I think a lot of the friction between what you see and what longer time posters are seeing with this roster movement is that SCU (and the WCC generally) have, up to present, continued to run basketball programs in the same way college programs did 20+ years ago… few junior college players, recruiting high school players with the idea that they’ll play for four years, sticking with players who underperform, etc. So I think a lot of our posters who have followed this team and the WCC long-term are more aghast with the roster turnover than folks, like you, who have seen how modern programs have operated for the recent past… Part of the recent investment in athletics/hiring Sendek is acquiescing to play the game the modern way- which means restructuring the roster more drastically and frequently.  But we have rarely seen that at this school, and thus, many of us have some trepidation. 

on April 9, 2018

That’s all fair comment. I appreciate the insight. AT NC State, Sendek didn’t use JUCOs much and used prep school post-grads quite a bit (this was early in the evolution of that, so mainly we’re talking about Hargrave here — I think he had like half a dozen or so guys from there in total, 3 in his first 1-2 recruiting classes). at Arizona State it was kind of all over the place bc well it was Arizona State, and also bc things were changing by that point and kids were changing (the point of Sendek’s co-authored book). He had some JUCOs, some grad transfers and D-I transfers, and high schoolers. Decent amount of international recruiting as well. 

It sounds like high school recruiting is always going to be a big part of recruiting at SCU, and it’s not very realistic to expect JUCOs or grad transfers to be a big part of it. It’s also not realistic to expect recruits to be any different than anywhere else, so one should expect some players that aren’t happy with their player time to transfer. Hopefully some will decide to stick it out and develop. 

on April 9, 2018

And earlier I meant to say they are above NCAA minimums…not that they aren’t. might be clear from context, but my mistake regardless.

on April 10, 2018

GetNashty, how does Villanova and Gonzaga do it? I am an old timer by many’s standards. We have apparently adopted a new way, they way all the cool kids (“modern programs”) are doing it…how has that impacted the product on the court? What are the outcomes of adopting the modern way? Has has it made us more competitive in the trapped in time WCC?

I see teams doing it the old way clocking us by 20+ points at half time. Believe me, if this was a 20+ win team competitive with GU, BYU, SMC, and any major program on the non-league schedule, I would embrace the modern way. If I saw the seats filled with screaming students and alumni, I would be thrilled with the turnover. Where is the benefit, or when will we see the benefit?

Near as I can tell, the only thing this team has worth a damn going into next season is the HS recruits that see this as a four year commitment.

on April 10, 2018

What team doing it the “old way” clocks us by 20 points? And even if, say, Portland beat us by 20 (which they probably did back in 2016) does that somehow make them a program worth emulating?

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Silverio committed to Rhode Island. RI had a good year, won 1st round game over Oklahoma and is typically a solid program.
He had Rhode Island plus some other good mid-majors pursuing him in the fall prior to committing to us….Rhode Island, Dayton, VCU, St.Louis, etc. I believe he had a solid senior year and suspect he had a few people whispering in his ear that he could do better than SCU.
Losing him disappoints me more than Turner or Roche leaving, might not have played much this season due to the guard depth we have but for the 19/20 season I could envision Silverio starting alongside Wertz and Eaddy in a 3 guard lineup.
On to the next…

3 days ago

He made the right decision. Rhode Island is a better program.

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