Is Coach Sendek “Big” on Bigs?

Updated on February 11, 2017 in Coach Chatter
20 on February 7, 2017

A lot of good topics on where the Broncos are and may be going under Coach Sendek.

It’s apparent he can coach…Pugh, “E”, Nate, KJ, etc have shown real improvement.  Hauser has been a bit of a mixed bag, but competes.  The talent upgrades are starting with this recruiting class – Turner, Walters, and Vrankic.

Begs the question, is Coach Sendek “big” on bigs?

Looking a bit into this SCU recruiting class and his history at NC State and ASU – seems like he prefers a roster of 6-3 to 6-8 athlete’s who can shoot it, slash, and can defend.

More on that in an upcoming Bucking Bronco story.

Turner, Walters fit that model and were great “gets.”  Vrankic, although listed at 6-9 is a”small” big.  Only weighs 205.

The highlight videos of Turner and Walters are exciting to watch.  Maybe reminds coach of his James Harden and Julius Hodge stars.  He did have some good true big men on his best teams, but not many.  Enough to make paint scoring legit to open room for the Harden types to take over.

Just to start a discussion, it does seem that those are the types of players that will match up better with the WCC top 3 – especially the Zags with their talent and depth at the guard spot and just enough Karnowski and Collins to make the system work.

IMHO, It make take two more years to get the athletes we need, but I like the direction!

 

 

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2 on February 7, 2017

Huh? None of this makes sense. I’ve covered his history with big men. The fact is there just aren’t that many in college basketball. But he had Jacobsen on his last teams, Bachynski before that, Boateng before that. Obviously not every big you recruit is going to work out. Cedric Simmons was a first round pick that hsould have stayed. Josh Powell, same way. Brandon Costner and Ben McCauley were late in his NC State career — I’m not sure if McCauley was over 6-8 or not but he was definitely a post player. He had a 6-11 skilled big (more of a stretch post) named Andrew Brackman who ended up being a first round MLB draft pick and only played 2 years of basketball. He certainly would have ended up being a quality player if he had focused on basketball, which maybe he should have though he did get a nice bonus.

on February 7, 2017

noob, I think that you are spot on with your assessment. It isn’t about Sendek decidedly choosing smaller players, it’s just that there is a supply-demand imbalance of 17- and 18-year-old young men who are 6’10” and over. EVERY coach is going after the same big kids, and the math is simple — there aren’t enough big men to go around, and the most talented ones are going to the ACC and the other Power-5 conferences. The big guys that Sendek DID get actually improved dramatically during his time with them. Boateng really got a lot better, and your right, he is a good comparison to Ndumanya.

 

I really would’ve like to see how John Bryant would’ve turned out if he had 4 years under Sendek’s tutelage.

on February 8, 2017

I think these days the international route is the best bet. Or locals. But it’s hard, obviously. I think SCU is actually in pretty decent shape right now for bigs, though. There’s actually a few options there in 2017-18, in contrast to pretty much anywhere else where it’s starter, freshman or bust.

But in state this year, if you were to try to grab someone late you’re looking at like Jacob Hughes. Does that sound great for anyone? 3 high schools, none of them particularly impressive showings? You have to be really careful for bigs and recruiting rankings, IMO. 

If he hadn’t graduated early, Roche would either be coming in as a FR or not coming (if he blew up between then and now). So he’s basically like a freebie for this class. 

I could see another NE prep school international like maybe Alexis Yetna be worth grabbing (actually he would almost certainly be worth it). Not they’re aren’t many, especially if your goal is to catch up with St. Marys and Gonzaga.

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1 on February 8, 2017

Buckets-
The John Bryant comment at the end of your post is a head scratcher, are you confusing Bryant w/ someone else?
Bryant improved substantially during his time at SCU. He arrived as a Frosh seriously overweight. By his junior year he improved his conditioning and game to the point he was selected all-league and averaged 18pts, over 9 rebs and 2.5 blocks per game. His senior year he lost additional weight and continued to improve again averaging over 18pts and 2.5 blocks per game. His rebounding improved substantially to over 14/game, 2nd in the nation, just a couple of tenths behind some slouch named Blake Griffin. He was WCC Player of the year and Honorable mention All-American. Bryant has had a long and suucessful career spent mostly in the Eurolegue plus a little time in D-league. He’s been selected all-league in the pros on several occasions.
You honestly think Sendek would’ve helped Bryant improve significantly beyond what he already achieved?…to what? 1st team All-American?

on February 8, 2017

I think he would’ve done much better under 4 years of Sendek, yes. I think his improvements would have happened earlier in his career, and I think he would’ve been drafted by an NBA team.

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0 on February 8, 2017

With Matt Hubbard quiting the team does that open up a spot for another player next year and also will burkett

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0 on February 9, 2017

Bronco4Life- No, we began the year with all 13 allowed scholarships spoken for. 3 spots will be vacated by the end of the year (Hubbard, Kratch, Brownridge) and we currently have 3 commits for 2017. That said, someone else could (and likely will) depart opening a spot for an additional recruit.

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0 on February 9, 2017

Okay got it! Thanks

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0 on February 9, 2017

One more question at 92 bronco? Someone on here said that we have three 3 star recruits coming in next year! I only see one.

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2 on February 10, 2017

‘4Life- I only follow Verbal Commits, not a member of some the main recruit rating outfits (Rivals, Scout, ESPN). I believe Verbal Commits recruiting ratings are an average of the aforementioned recruiting services.
According to VC, neither Walters or Vrankic have been rated by those services, when that happens I believe VC automatically gives players a 2 star rating. I’m not sure how long Walters (from England) and Vrankic (Canada) have been playing in the States but foreign players are rarely if ever rated by the recruiting services. Scouts from those services typically base their evals on watching players at the various Spring/Summer AAU tourneys so If a player isn’t on the AAU circuit in early/mid high school then they are often overlooked by the recruiting services.
Lastly, I’d take the star ratings w/ a grain of salt. They are often based on a relatively small number of observations, especially for middle of the pack 3 star type kids. And they often miss the boat on the ‘late bloomers’ while overrating the kids who are the man child types who matured early physically and were fairly dominate as say 9th/10th graders but whose later development as 11th/12th graders slowed since they were already maxed out in terms of size/athletic ability at an early age.

on February 10, 2017

Vrankic has 3 stars on Scout, but it wasn’t updated on VC. I’m not sure about Walters. Point being, they’re well above the quality of the usual Santa Clara recruiting class at least in terms of perception.

on February 10, 2017

No idea about stars, but the NERR has rated 26th in NE prep schools.

If they’re not recruiting Alexis Yetna, they should be. If it was me I’d ship off 3-4 guys if I could get some of these unsigned preps in. Lot of guys that based on tonight don’t look like they really want to compete and win. Anyway, here’s the list.

http://www.newenglandrecruitingreport.com/rankings/new-england-class-of-2017

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0 on February 10, 2017

I’m pretty optimistic about this class. If my memory serves me right, they all committed right after herb was hired. #sendekeffect

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1 on February 10, 2017

The 2017 incoming class sounds like the best one in along time.

on February 10, 2017

remember KK’s first recruiting class was arguably our best in 20+ years too. (Kevin Foster/James Rahon/Marc Trasolini – and an early commit of PG13….still wonder how that would have changed our program had he stayed)  It really helps to knock that first class out of the park to build momentum and show you’re truly changing the program. I have faith Sendek will actually continue with strong recruiting classes (vs. falling off a cliff like KK did) and also be much better with development.

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1 on February 10, 2017

Sucks James rahon transferred to San Diego state.

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would have been fun to see him and Foster in the back-court for 4 years.  

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1 on February 11, 2017

Yes, I wonder what happened with James rahon at Santa Clara? That was a big loss to the Santa Clara program. I wouldn’t be surprised if Kerry keating had the most transfers in the history of div 1 college basketball in a 9 year stint.

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No way. He had some transfers to be sure. But he had maybe half as many as Rex Walters over the same period with fewer impactful transfers (minus Rahon). The Dons, I believe, literally lost their starting PG to transfer in three consecutive years.

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+1 PattyMac
There were probably 50+ D1 programs who had more transfers than SCU during KK’s tenure. Transfers are the now the norm, not the exception. To put it in perspective, even Gonzaga has had their share, I believe at least a dozen, maybe 15 in the last 10 yrs.

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