How’s Your Bracket?

Updated on March 24, 2017 in NCAA Tourney
19 on March 22, 2017

I am personally doing lousy. Last place in two brackets and middle of the pack in another. Only have 6 of the Sweet Sixteen teams.

East: Done. Toast. Nada. Thank you Duke.

West: Zags and Zona*.

Midwest: Kansas

South: UNC*, UCLA and KY*.

*3 of 4 Final Four picks still alive. There is hope.

 

Can anyone beat 6?  Be honest…

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0 on March 22, 2017

My South is Perfect. I have Kansas and Oregon in the Midwest. 0 in the East, Arizona and Gonzaga in the West. So that gets me a total of 8!

 

However, Duke is my champion… so I am done.

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0 on March 22, 2017

I’ve got 10 out of 16

East: Baylor

West: Gonzaga, Arizona, Xavier

SE: Kansas, Oregon

MW: NC, Butler, UCLA, Kentucky

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0 on March 23, 2017

It’s meh but with long term potential. 8/16 sweet sixteen.
East: nothing
West: gonzaga, wv, Arizona
South: Kansas, Purdue
Mw: unc, butler, ucla

I have 3/4 final four left with ucla beating gonzaga in one, and an identical second bracket but gonzaga winning.

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6 on March 23, 2017

I’ve got 11 out of 16, but that shouldn’t count for much since I think just picking the favorites across the board gets 12 out of 16, which is sort of sad for all of us I guess.

East: Baylor
West: Zags, WV, Zona
Midwest: Kansas, Purdue, Oregon
South: Kentucky, UCLA, Butler, NC

The thing that is crazy to me every year is how many “upsets” in the first round would not have really have been upsets in the preseason. I’ve used that as a filter on my pools and it seems to works pretty consistently. Wisconsin was ranked 9, Xavier 7, Rhode Island 23 in the preseason. Basically three top 25 teams to start the season that were seeded really low in the brackets because they had pretty underwhelming regular seasons. Those teams probably pulled the three biggest “upsets” in the tourney, which just sort of goes back to talent at the end of the day and who was expected to be there early on. Then again, Duke was ranked number 1 to start the year, so take that for what it’s worth.

Definitely ready for some good hoops tomorrow. Should be interesting to see how the Zags do with the WV press.

on March 23, 2017

I am VERY interested to see how the Zags do against Press Virginia.  Unfortunately, I’ll be on a plane to Vegas. Might catch the first 5 minutes in the airport.

on March 23, 2017

if the zags win a title, do they stay in the WCC? or do they keep playing it safe for repeated exposure to the tourney?

on March 23, 2017

They stay. Would another conference take them? Yes, an NCAA championship looks very good on an application to the PAC 12, most other sports would get demolished wouldn’t they? 

on March 23, 2017

I remember reading an article about how accurate preseason polls were when it comes to the end of the season. Not sure if this was it from a couple years back, but this confirms your thinking: http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2015-10-22/college-basketball-how-ap-preseason-poll-predicts-ncaa

Some interesting stats: 

  • 50% of 1-seeds were in the top 4 preseason rank. 
  • The lowest seed ever gotten by a preseason #1? An 8-seed by 2013-14 Kentucky (they made a run to the championship game). 
  • 85% of all teams in the AP top 25 over the last 30+ years, make the NCAA tourney. 
on March 23, 2017

im gonna go out on a limb and say Gonzaga has a better sports program than Utah, Colorado, Wash St, Oregon St. Theyre pretty good in sports ither than MBB. im just wondering how long we have to wait for other teams to get a shot at the tourney. almost 20 years now of absolutely diminating both on the court and recruiting. credit to them, but when is enough enough? it makes more sense for them to stay in the WCC from a business perspective (lol college sports is a business), but from an athletic/competitive perspective its borderline cowardly.

on March 23, 2017

I don’t think so, at least in regard to Colorado. I’m a law student there, Santa Clara Undergrad. I love Santa Clara sports, and have followed CU for a long time, as various family members have completed graduate and law education here. 

Colorado’s athletic department and Gonzaga are in different stratospheres. Colorado spends hundreds of millions of dollars on NCAA sports, in terms of facility upgrades and annual budgets. The new indoor football practice facility and locker room probably cost more than half of Gonzaga’s endowment. 

Colorado has won the national championship in football in the last 30 years. That alone is almost impossible- only a handful of schools have ever done so. In addition, they’ve won a Heisman trophy in that span. Despite recent struggles, they’re one of the more successful college football programs all-time, in terms of team wins, players in the NFL, etc. Gonzaga hasn’t played football since the 1940’s. As much as I love CBB, Football is, was, and will be the college sports king. Anyone without it is, in reality, largely outside the national college sports conscious. 

Even taking football out of the equation, CU has better athletic department.

Just this year, Colorado had every single fall sports team ranked in the top 25. Winter sports are tough as well- including basketball (both teams to the NIT), national runners-up in skiing. Both men and women CC finished in the top 6 in the country (GU didn’t make the finals), their women’s lacrosse team is in the top 5, cursory glance showed CU’s golf programs for both sexes finishing ahead of Gonzaga in mutual tournaments. Colorado basketball is no slouch- they regularly play in the NCAA/NIT, and put players in the NBA often- Andre Roberson, Chauncey Billups, Alec Burks. They’ve done that on and off since the 1940’s, GU has been really good for 20 years, non-existent prior. GU has the edge, but if they played every year for the last 10, I’d say it wouldn’t be a one-sided series at all. 

Colorado doesn’t field some traditional sports (baseball, for example) but they are legitimate NCAA tournament threat in every sport they do field, and in several, a national championship threat. 

GU is competitive in a lot of things, but not nearly to that level. I would venture that if CU and GU played in every single sport they both field, CU win all but men’s bb (at altitude, that could be a close game- CU beat Oregon), and women’s BB and VB would be competitive. 

Colorado has 26 NCAA championships, good for 20th all-time. As far as I know, Gonzaga has zero. I’ll grant that some are niche sports, but those are still challenging to win. Football certainly isn’t niche. 

I’m a huge WCC homer. What Gonzaga has done is incredible- they’ve gone from playing NAIA basketball when Ken Sears was at SCU, to irrelevant in the Big Sky, to a CBB borderline blue blood, and can cross that line this year perhaps. The way that ascendence has affected the profile of the school and their sports teams at large has been transformational. But it’s dwarfed in comparison to a school that has played major college football since the 1930s.  

The GU conference debate to me is a non-starter. They either find a way to play in the Big East (for all their sports, which may or may not ultimately be beneficial for them), or stay in the WCC. The Pac-12 isn’t going to take them. They don’t fit the profile, and they don’t play football. The WCC was better than the MWC the last two years. GU would have the same problem there. 

If GU went to the Big East, and the MBB team finished 3-5 over a five year span. what would their attendance look like? I’m not sure. 

The good news for them, and us, is that if this isn’t the best the WCC has ever been (concededly, largely because of GU), then one would have to look back to the 1950’s a better period in the conference’s history. If GU wins it all, then it might be the collectively strongest ever. USF is young, we have upside, Pepp had a ton of injuries, SMC will be strong again (if Bennett stays), and BYU has a maturing Mika. I’d love to see the WCC get 3 NCAA bids and 2 NIT in the near future. 

 

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0 on March 23, 2017

I have 13 in, with South and Midwest fully covered. Final four I have Michigan, UCLA, Zags, and Duke, so retribution coming from the East. I think Michigan still has a shot…I hadn’t watched much Big 10, ’til their tournament, and thought Wolverines and Wisconsin were really good. Less impressed by Swanigan @ Purdue.

Don’t know if Gonzaga gets by ‘Zona,  but they are pretty much always my final 4 pick. So 8 from Midwest and South:

West: Zags, WV, Arizona

East: Baylor, Florida 

 

 

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0 on March 23, 2017

I think Gonzaga handles West Virginia and the press tonight. We see some turnovers but more easy layups for Gonzaga. (At least i hope this is the case since i have Gonz in my final, and I’m assuming this is what every team thinks going into their matchup with WV). 

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0 on March 23, 2017

I don’t make a bracket. I root to heavily for the upsets, and that loses fun if you pragmatically pick against the little guys in a bracket. 

That said, lackluster year for upsets, but a really strong chance, I think, to see the Zags go farther than ever before. I remain hopeful. 

Excited for the games to be back tonight! And proud of my hometown, Sacramento, for hosting a round in the new arena very successfully. Jealous of my dad for running into Phil Knight at the Iona game while I was in the law library. 

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0 on March 24, 2017

Oh, man. That Zags game was amazing! Really fun to watch. Ugly but incredible and fitting that their D sealed it in the end. Great team win, which has been their storyline all year.

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0 on March 24, 2017

If there’s one team they matchup well against it at this point in the tourney it should be Xavier. They have superior inside presence – but shout out to my high school classmate Sean O’Mara, a center for Xavier.
Let the battle of the jesuits begin.

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0 on March 24, 2017

It is cool that we are guaranteed a Jesuit team in the final 4 this year. I want Gonzaga mainly for the conference money.

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0 on March 24, 2017

If Gonzaga makes it to the Final Four, we’ll no longer be able to say that Santa Clara has made a Final Four and Gonzaga has not. Been fun to continue to be able to say that.

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1 on March 24, 2017

Absolutely rooting for gonzaga to help rise the tide of the WCC. 

But deep down, wouldn’t mind seeing an epic collapse against Xavier. Its a win-win right? 

on March 24, 2017

I think the only thing thats going to rise the tide of the WCC (as said above) is the top 4-5 going to the NCAA/NIT every year. It can’t just be Gonzaga, SMC, and BYU every year. I really don’t expect the WCC to become the Big East overnight but we should work to become the A-10 where 3 bids is the norm.

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