Gonzaga to the MWC?

Updated on April 6, 2018 in League Play
16 on March 25, 2018

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/gonzaga-to-the-mountain-west-zags-hope-to-reach-conference-decision-in-next-two-weeks/

 

Looking more and more like the Zags will move to the Mountain West. I’ve resisted this move for some time, but I’m now am relishing it. I just hope they take BYU with them.

 

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4 on March 25, 2018

I think this would be very bad for SCU and the WCC.  Losing the best team is is not a plus, everyone else should strive to get better, not lower the bar.  The WCC should work out a more equitable revenue share of post season play to entice Gonzaga to stay. Gonzaga dominates men’s basketball but, that is where it stops.  So, other than basketball revenue, the other teams Gonzaga fields, except maybe women’s basketball, would not benefit from a move.  

If Gonzaga leaves, I am sure ESPN would stop showing WCC games on TV.  We would be a one bid league for sure with #15 and 16 seedings.  Attendance, already bad, would get worse.  The WCC would become an afterthought.  

Based on school size, BYU is nope a good fit. Their women’s programs have done well but I think BYU came into the WCC expecting to win everything and they did not.  Thank heir football program tried to emulate Notre Dame as an independent but they are no ND and their football team has digressed.  

on March 25, 2018

Loyola Chicago almost certainly thought the same when Wichita State left the conference. They’re thinking differently now.

I don’t want the Zags to leave because I like talking smack to my Gonzaga friends, but if the absence allows SCU to become a legit tourney team, I wish them luck. (And will laugh a bit at their expense when the MWC falls apart during the next football conference realignment war).

on March 25, 2018

I am rooting for the Ramblers.  I think SCU might need to switch Chaplin’s……If a Jesuit school like LofC can go for a nun, why can’t SCU????? Must be over 90 to qualify. BTW, SCU still needs to leap frog, SMC, BYU, USF, and USD to even think about being tourney eligible.  A sad state of affairs. 

on March 25, 2018

I fully agree with your first post. The others need to really rise up to approach GU. Let them keep whatever the tourney $$$ is until the dwarves get bigger. Sans Gonzaga, this just becomes a west coast version of the Socon, OVC, pick one from the fire-sale bin. This would also diminish the pressure for SCU to make some quantum jump in hoops quality. Tough to see us do a Rambler reincarnation without riding on the coat tails of Gonzaga. I also don’t care what happens to BYU…they are just a bizarre growth that hasn’t gone away. The news post doesn’t look encouraging. Wonder if the new commissioner is earning her money, trying to keep a lifeline out?  

 

on March 25, 2018

If Wichita was still in the Valley, Loyola probably doesn’t make the tournament. Gonzaga is a hindrance to everyone else, not a help. It was a one-bid league even with Gonzaga. 

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0 on March 25, 2018

I don’t think Gonzaga gets much of a boost in the Mountain West (and perhaps it could backfire on them).  The talk seems like a bargaining chip to me.  Gonzaga brings in the biggest share of proceeds for the WCC and  they want a bit more for their efforts (although none of the other schools like that idea, it seems pretty logical to me). Not to mention, a slightly smaller percentage of something is better than a bigger percentage on nothing.  The rest of the WCC (aside from BYU) can’t put up much of an argument.

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3 on March 27, 2018

Looks like they are staying… if that’s all they wanted it should have been granted long ago.

https://www.sfgate.com/collegesports/article/WCC-makes-changes-to-men-s-basketball-schedule-12782409.php

on March 27, 2018

I am glad Gonzaga is staying and frankly if just giving up two league games so they can improve their RPI (along with St Marys and BYU) is what it takes then so be it.  The league tourney has always been skewed top favor the better teams and this is fine.  This may result in the WCC having more teams qualify for the big dance so when  SCU gets better we have a better chance of getting in. I’m hoping that day will come.  

on March 27, 2018

Hope this lays rest to GU leaving. The Spokane paper also alluded to revenue changes either proposed or possibly made last fall, but no details. Looks like each team will play 7 home and home conference games, and then a home and an away for singletons with the 8th and 9th conference members. Everybody will get the two extra OOC games, so maybe if actual improvement is made among the lower seven, someone else can also improve their RPI. This must have been in the works for a while, but nice cachet for the new commish.   

 

on March 27, 2018

I know for a fact that Gonzaga has been grumbling about the tourney format and bottom-feeders killing their RPI for years–at least a decade if not more..

My favorite part of this:

“Starting with the 2019-20 season, WCC men’s teams will be required to play in a multi-team event, play more home games than road games and schedule no more than two non-Division I opponents.” 

Had to chuckle a bit–is that really going to work? Scheduling is hard enough, but: 

  • Are there really THAT many multi team events out there that want the WCC bottom feeders. 
  • How does the league schedule home games when no one but DII, DII and NAIA teams want to play them/us at our sites?  

There is one more item in the official presser:

http://www.wccsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/032618aaa.html

“In addition, the Conference must approve all “guarantee” games in which a WCC member is paid by an opponent to play at the opponent’s venue.”

The conference can’t be worried about body-bag games like football. Are they worried that teams are scheduling games with teams that have lower RPI’s than most of the league?  How is that possible? 

Maybe this will force teams to work harder and spend more $$ to get teams to come and play, but in reality..will it work? 

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0 on March 27, 2018

Not sure where we are getting the idea Gonzaga is staying. This is a play to keep Gonzaga.

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0 on March 27, 2018

Agree with BroncoHoops5, this is almost a plea bargain with SMC more than it is Gonz. Gonzaga will make the tourney no matter what each year, but SMC is the one who gets hits the hardest from the WCC tourney and RPI rankings. 

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0 on March 28, 2018

Well, I think this is a plea to Gonzaga, but they were working on this during the season.

Saint Mary’s isn’t going anywhere. MWC doesn’t want them. Their success isn’t sustainable like Gonzaga and BYU’s is in my opinion. They aren’t throwing around the $$ like those two schools are. 

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0 on March 29, 2018

Agree w/ BroncoHoops5….this is a move by the league to entice/appease GU but doesn’t guarantee they’ll stay.
Spokane media has reported in recent days that GU is still weighing their options, are in discussions w/ the MWC and expect to make a decision sometime in the next few weeks.
I suspect GU is seeing what they can extract from both conferences, and weighing the risks of moving to a football first conference as a non-football school. Plus some logistics challenges in that the MWC doesn’t sponsor all of the same sports as the WCC, ie- no men’s soccer.
Will be interesting to see how this plays out.

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0 on April 3, 2018

ESPN is reporting that the Zags will stay in the WCC. I am happy they are staying-it gives us a lot of incentive to get much better. Plus, they bring in a lot cash to the league.

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0 on April 6, 2018

I think it’s great they stayed.  I would love to see an announcement soon about the practice facility, if we’re going to compete with the upper tier teams in the league we need to take action.  Improving the salary pool is one thing, but to pull in better recruits we need to have a concrete facilities plan and timeline for improvements.

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