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Updated on March 21, 2018 in Other
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WCC is 8-1 in various post season tournies, BYU is the only one eliminated. SMC won a close one over UW last night w/ Landale in foul trouble most of the 2nd half.

Some of you prob heard but I haven’t seen it mentioned here….last week, Pepperdine hired Romar for a 2nd go.
Was somewhat successful in his first stint.
And he’s surrounding himself w/ a strong and familiar staff, namely Ken Bone who was at UW w/ Romar during the early and more successful years. Bone then became the Portland St. head coach, had a solid 4 years their including upsetting GU in Spokane, parlayed his Portland St. success in to the Wash St. gig for about 5yrs.
Romar’s recruiting prowess combined w/ Bone’s experience and x’s/o’s could be a formidable duo. Romar always recruited Seattle well including beating out GU for recruits and there’s a strong connection w/ former UW and former/current NBA players who are from Seattle and are active in the basketball community sponsoring AAU programs or coaching for local AAU or high schools…guys like Brandon Roy, Nate Robinson, etc. It won’t be as easy to recruit to Pepperdine but I still expect he’ll pull a kid or two out of Seattle which is historically a strong basketball town.

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Relatively unrelated, but one of Pepperdine’s all-time greats, Doug Christie, is from Seattle! 

Until Pepperdine gets a new gym built, it will remain difficult to recruit, and, by extension, win there. Not impossible, given what SMC has done with McKeon, but still challenging. Same is true at LMU. Those two facilities are downright horrendous. I think that Marty Wilson had bad luck with lots of injuries, and Firestone Fieldhouse certainly didn’t help… I kid you not, 4 of their home games had listed (i.e., often inflated) attendance of 750. SCU can draw twice that, and our arena is largely an empty cavern. 

Building modern, on-campus facilities seams challenging for a few of the WCC schools… and the longer they go without success, the harder it surely gets to tap a big doner. 

FWIW- Of the 10 School in the Big East, only two play on campus- Butler and Xavier… All the others play in nearby pro arenas (Georgetown, St. Johns, Villanova, Marquette in their city’s NBA arena, and the others in local NHL/AAA hockey or basketball arenas). In my opinion, playing in a facility like that lends legitimacy to the whole thing, and gets non-alumni interested.  Heck, it would also get alumni interested too. Like the WCC, the Big East is full of teams in big cities with pro sports and other stuff going on. They are also far better at basketball. It’s a direction I’d love to see this league head, and facing reality, I think, needs to tend toward if GU or BYU are to stay. 

If nobody wants to come to Malibu for games, and that’s the current state of things, would they even consider playing in LA somewhere? Anything has to be better than what they’re doing. I know that it isn’t free to do that, but they proposed a renovation plan for their arena that cost $500M…. and failed to get the money. Doesn’t seem hard to figure out why- that’s roughly how much the new, state of the art 17,000 seat Sacramento Kings arena cost. I remember the Pepp plan had some other elements, otherwise that price is nuts… Heck, if they paid that, and continued to be bad, and had another 750 attendance game, their ratio of arena price to fan for that game would be approaching a million dollars. 

No college should be playing games somewhere with a wall behind the baskets… LMU, Pepp, USF, and SMC do, and it is totally high school looking on TV.

Anyway, sorry for the off track response, but the new WCC commissioner, coupled with the GU-to-the-MW rumors have got me thinking about the direction of the league and the fate of our band of schools. It seems like a crossroads where we will either rise up and try to be more a Big East of the West, or falter and lose two big brands and be a one bid low major (I think that without GU or BYU, this league falls quite far)… 

As you pointed out, we are having post-season success. I think Scholl gets the long term gig, K. Smith has the Dons with back-to-back 20 win seasons, I’m optimistic for SCU long term, SMC may well win the NIT, and GU as well could with the whole damn thing. Still alive to sweep all four post season tournaments (which we were alive to do quite late last year as well) If everyone ante’d up, we have the makings of a strong league. Would love to see Commish Glo be aggresive and look to add programs, even secular, public programs, rather than lose our own. If we look to expand to 12 with Seattle, GCU, or Denver, the predictable path, I’m less convinced. 

We just posted such an egregious RPI I still am in disbelief. 

Happy watching for the rest of the big dance, and go broncos. 

on March 21, 2018

Re: Pepp….agree not easy to recruit to currently given facilities and lack of recent success. But there is some good young talent there as I mentioned in another thread…Ross, Edwards, Berthow form a strong nucleus. No question Edwards and Ross would start for us now. If Romar can keep their good young talent (not a given) and supplement with a couple good new recruits, maybe fill a gap w/ a grad transfer then they could quickly duplicate what USD or USF did this season as early as next year.
Sidenote on recruiting….SCU recruited/offered Edwards’ younger brother Kessler Edwards (‘18 recruit, 6-7 wing) who ultimately committed to Pepp in the Fall. If the elder bro stays I assume the younger stays as well.

Re: the league…if GU and BYU depart, I prefer we stick to adding Seattle and Denver, private institutions of similar makeup and mission. I think there’s some strength and value to leagues that have a similar makeup such as the WCC, Ivy, Patriot league. I think it you stray from that by adding certain public schools, even ones w/ solid academics (say Cal Poly, UC Davis or UCSB) then you run the risk of turning in to a Conf USA or Atlantic 10 situation w/ frequent turnover of teams and limited stability.

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Santa Clara can at least draw some inspiration from Loyola Chicago….A Jesuit school located in a large metro area that has been largely irrelevant for the better part of 30 years that catches lightning in a bottle for one season. And while I prefer Gonzaga stay in the conference, Wichita State leaving the Missouri Valley probably opened the door for Loyala to make the NCAA tournament this year, so there is definitely something to be sad for just making the Dance. I was looking at Loyola’s prior 4 seasons and they never had a winning conference record which makes this season all the more fascinating for them.

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Loy-Chi is an example of why i’m indifferent about GU (and BYU) departing the WCC. Yes, the league statute drops but odds of making NCAA tourney increase 3-5x. And the

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